Turbo Balancing (Dynamic Rotor Balancing)

Turbo Rotar Balance

Turbo Balancing Service?

Ok.....So you are going to save yourself some money and rebuild your turbo yourself when you hear "How are you going to balance it?? Turbo MUST be balanced or you are wasting your money"  Yes, the know it all down the pub or at work etc wants to put you down before you have even popped the bonnet......

If the Turbo Compressor and Turbine wheels have no sign of damage, then you can go down the route of making a mark from the tip of the turbine shaft, down over the shaft nut and onto the Turbo compressor wheel. Then once you have stripped, cleaned and renewed the bearings and are rebuilding the Turbo back up you can align all Turbo components back up and in effect "Keep the balance" of the Turbo pre rebuild.....not ideal, but is anything ever ideal??????????

Well we have a better option!!

Turbo Rebuild are pleased to offer a balancing service for the ultimate home Turbo rebuild. For only £50 which includes return postage (for a limited period only) you can send us your Turbo turbine shaft, compressor wheel, shaft nut and thrust collar and usually within 48hrs we will have returned your freshly balanced Turbo parts together with balancing printout. All Turbo rotors are balanced to as near perfect as possible in some cases to 0.001g but always to within manufacturer tolerances.

 

Please note: We can only accept Turbo shaft and wheels with all blades intact and not badly bent etc (please contact us for advice)

 

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Some intresting reading on Turbo balancing......

One of the most important parts of building a turbocharger that will operate quietly and efficiently for a long time is being sure that the Turbo rotating components are properly balanced. The problem is that many people do not know what “properly balanced” really means.

Imbalance is usually expressed as the product of weight and radius. If a one gram weight is placed at a one inch radius on a balanced part, the part is said to be unbalanced by one gram-inch. Modern turbocharger tolerances are typically expressed in milligram-inches, or thousandths of a gram-inch. For example, the Garrett T-3 and T-4 frame turbos generally have component balance tolerances around .010 gram-inches (10 milligram inches).

One area of confusion about Turbo balancing is component versus assembly balance. Turbocharger rotating groups are made up of several Turbo component parts that are assembled to make up the rotating assembly. Of these Turbo components, only the turbine and compressor wheels are component balanced. Balancing of these components is critical, and must be done prior to assembly. The axial thrust spacers and compressor locknut are not balanced, and the mechanical fit of these components are subject to machining tolerance limits. When these pieces are mated a certain amount of “stackup” imbalance is introduced into the completed turbo.

Stackup imbalance is not a major concern with larger turbochargers. Typically, the turbine and compressor wheels in these turbos are balanced to a tolerance substantially closer than required by the assembled turbo. This way, when the components are assembled, the stackup imbalance is not large enough to cause a problem with the complete turbo.

Turbo Rotating Assembly

 

With the increasing popularity of small turbos in automotive applications, stackup imbalance has become more of a factor. Due to the light mass and high rotational speeds of these small units, simply balancing the Turbo components to an overly close tolerance may not be enough. The typical symptoms of a slightly unbalanced small turbo are oil leakage from the ends of the bearing housing, and “screaming,” an unbalance induced vibration of the Turbo rotating assembly. The fastest, most effective method of eliminating the stackup imbalance that causes these problems is to trim balance the moving parts of the assembled turbo CHRA (center housing rotating assembly).

 

 

It is possible to build turbos that are well balanced without CHRA balancing. The turbo builder must be very critical during the inspection and assembly portions of the rebuild to assure the quality of all the Turbo components, and their fit with each other. Many of the best “custom” turbo builders do not CHRA balance due to a combination of critical inspection and careful assembly procedures. Higher volume builders of turbos, and shops desiring to have complete knowledge and control of the assembly process, perform some type of CHRA balancing most commonly VSR Balancing (Vibration sorting Rig) or High Speed "Trim" balancing.

There are basically two types of Turbo CHRA balancing, high speed (VSR) and low speed (balancing machine). The VSR (vibration sort rig) is a machine that uses compressed air to spin the assembled Turbo CHRA to a relatively high speed, while pressure oiling the bearings and sensing vibration of the unit. Small imbalance corrections are then made on the compressor nose or nut to fine or trim balance the Turbo unit.

Turbo CHRA balancing

CHRA balancing consists of mounting an assembled turbo CHRA in a conventional two plane dynamic balancing machine. The rotating assembly is then driven at a relatively low speed by belt or air, and unbalance readings are taken on both the Turbo compressor and turbine ends of the rotating assembly. Oil is not pressure fed into the turbo, as the shaft is prelubricated before the balancing operation. The low speed and short cycle time preclude the need for pressurized lubrication.

Either type of Turbo CHRA balancing will generally eliminate stackup imbalance to an acceptable degree. Machine balancing has a slight advantage, in that the rotating components are dual plane balanced, as opposed to single plane balancing with the VSR. The main advantage of the VSR is that the turbo has actually spun at high speed, so the operator may be able to hear unusual noises from the turbo, and in some cases the oil flow can be checked (though this is not very reliable.)

Another common misconception about Turbo balancing is that balancing at higher speeds results in closer balancing. This is not inherently true. A rigid rotor that is out of balance by 10 milligram inches at 1000 RPM will be out of balance by 10 milligram inches at 100,000 RPM. The force created by a given amount of imbalance increases exceptionally as speed increases, but the absolute amount of imbalance does not. It is critical that the balancing equipment being used has sufficient sensitivity to balance the rotor to the necessary tolerance at the desired balancing speed, but balancing at operational speed is rarely advantageous. The logistic and safety considerations of very high speed balancing rarely outweigh any accuracy gained. In conclusion, the key to maximum life out of a turbocharger is proper selection of Turbo components, precision balancing of those components, and careful assembly of the turbo. An additional balancing operation performed on the completed turbo is not absolutely necessary in most cases, but it does provide a higher degree of confidence in the final product. Turbo stripdown and inspection for wear and clearances before rebuild and accurate 2 plane balancing is a MUST in any Turbo Rebuild.

 

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